Communism as a dead horse

One should keep flogging a dead horse.
One should bury the horse with a ceremony.
One should leave the thought of a dead horse.

Well I face a dilemma about whether to look at the faults of communism or whether to look at the faults of our economy.

Market economy, Communist economy.
The first of these gave the idea of the value of produce to come from the market.
Value is then manipulated by the owners through a magical transformation system. Fudge.
Actually value has many attributes and most notably there is the value as formed on the market. Market also demands value of storehousing and delivery and promotion and finally use value.
Perhaps Marx wanted a general or universal theory of value that would work in any society whether in communist or capitalist. However he wrote that it would not work in primitive cultures.
If the value does not originate in the production the idea of surplus value is an excessive fiction.
The ends of his theory are the premises of the theory, therefore there is a fault.
If the value is defined on the market then the price is reduced until it approximates what demand defines its value as use value.
If the labourers also inhabit a market of wages, then they choose and improve the wages and conditions of work.
Owners support migration of the workers.
If the value is defined by the collusion of the owners of production then society loses by not recieving the use value of the produce. Such collusions face cooperatives and new businesses as a challenge.
If the owners take the surplus value created at production then the market has no need for the owner. Yet it is needed and the owner needs to work on the market or with offical resellers and promoters.

On the other side of the coin are the changing times, paradigm alteration changes the focus of profit. If the market disappears then value is defined between use value and labour value.


If communism cannot be defined then how can the steps towards it be defined? If these cannot be defined how can it come to being? '

If laws are set up to safeguard the socialist state then what would happen if these "wither away"? Would the safeguarding mechanism that needs to be maintained need a state itself?

Comparison of barbarism and red terror. Could there be a civilized revolution? Could pacifism be a road to socialism? Aid in means of production as among the primary methods of spreading socialism.

Do different political economies have their respective perspectives on the definition of value?

When the middle class creates the pattern of consumption that the proletariat desire to mimic, the birth pangs  of the aristocracy of the proletariat start. The smaller the proletariat the faster it develops a class consciousness if other nations have it already.

Does the revolution in one country appear as a holistic event, caused by friction between nations, pathos from the comparison of disparities between the different nations, economic considerations between capitalist nations and technological changes including early capitalism and more advanced capitalism.